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What is gothic fashion in Japan?
How is it different from Western gothic?
What are your favorite jgoth brands?
How is the goth scene over there (any experiences to share)?
Who are your jgoth style icons?

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is this for real?

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>>9316333
nice trips

the biggest difference is not in style as much as quality. despite being well-established as a subculture, Western goth brands are often costumey, and the better brands tend to only make women's clothes. Japanese gothic brands like h. Naoto, in contrast, have a huge range of styles in varying levels of formality.

another difference is that there is less emphasis on sex appeal in jgoth, usually. even with brands like alice auaa and Na+h, which can use very sexy silhouettes, the coords or fashion spreads i have seen emphasize sexuality less than their Western counterparts.

alice auaa is my favorite jgoth brand, followed by h. Naoto. if we include EGL family gothic brands, Moi-meme-Moitie has a special place in my heart. if we include defunct brands, Black Peace Now is the best.

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>>9316350
as for style icons, Mana-sama, Uri (featured often on street snaps), and Buttcape

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>>9316350
>implying h. Naoto isn't Hot Topic tier
yellowfever

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>>9317305
I can't tell if this is bait

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Sheglit is my absolute favourite brand, I can use a lot of the pieces for both lolita and more casual goth styles.

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>>9317375
You simply don't seem to know about quality, that's it. Hell why h.Naoto is always part of the ita threads.

>> No. 9317444

>>9317392
My h.naoto clothes are high quality. I've also never seen negative reviews or complaints about them. I don't look at the ita thread so I don't know. Could it be because their "decomposed" style doesn't fit in with most lolita's aesthetic?

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>>9317380
I love this! Haughty gothic ojou garments!

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>>9317380
Sheglit is godly. Have you bought from them, anon? I'd like to hear more about what the quality is like.

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>>9317483
Different anon, but I've handled quite a bit of sheglit. It's really nice! Not moitie/boz tier, but really good. IIRC BPN had really inconsistent quality, but sheglit seems to be much better about that. They've got a few pieces I'm after too.

>> No. 9317566

if you go to goth clubs, do you wear jgoth brands or emulate a jgoth style? used BPN, Ozz Croce, Algonquins, and the like put up with much vigorous activity, ime. Yosuke USA shoes have also survived my stomping around.

but the brands associated more with EGL, i would not wear them to a concert or club, even used. they are not made for much physical activity.

>>9317305
my h. Naoto items are excellent quality with amazing detail. you may be living in the past.

>> No. 9317573 (Deleted) 

All dat yellowfever in here.

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>>9317566
>my h. Naoto items are excellent quality with amazing detail. you may be living in the past.
Great quality if you are used to H&M clothes.

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>>9317490
I love this! Her hair really cute, I've been tempted to a side shave/undercut soon

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>>9317573
>yellow fever
>on a Japanese fashion board

from what superior Aryan fashion board have you fallen from?

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>>9317589
this

>> No. 9317763

>>9316333
>How is it different from Western gothic?
In my opinion Japanese goth is less about the music and more about the fashion. Western goth seems to take more from the punk scene, having more DIY aesthetics and a musical focus. J-goth's is more about looking the part and having a stronger sense of a spooky aesthetic than its western counterpart. It's a bummer, because japan actually had a decent goth scene with some stellar bands.

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>>9317763
What do japanese goths listen to? Just metal?

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>>9317566
I wear a combination of jgoth and black clothes. I want to be comfortable when I dance, but still look good. I noticed other people will sometimes just wear regular black clothes because they're interested in the culture, but haven't really participated. Others will wear lolita and EGA.

>>9317763
What bands to do recommend? I'm always up to learning about more music.

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>>9317854
The ones I chatted with liked Hocico and Grendel, which surprised me.

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>>9317865
I'm not surprised at all. From my understanding, some of the clubs over there play quite a bit of industrial.

>> No. 9317966

>>9317854
I'm not saying they dont listen to the typical goth bands, I meant that the whole "you're not goth if you don't listen to x and y" doesn't seem to be prevalent over there as the fashion seems to be the biggest focus.

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style icon: gothmura

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>>9317966
I love goth fashion but I have never called my shit goth or tried to engage with a goth community of any sort because of this. I really don't feel like aligning my music taste with my fashion taste when I already have a very defined idea of what I like in music and it's nowhere near typical goth stuff. I don't even know if I can rightly call what I wear goth just because I have no connection to any of the other aspects of the subculture and it makes me feel a little awkward.

Here's another Sheglit coordinate to keep this more on-topic.

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>>9318036
you can call it gothic fashion, but might add the disclaimer that you are not "a goth," if that makes you feel better

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>>9317380
I own this vest and skirt from Sheglit. Really lovely quality and something different from regular bruando items.
>when people tell you that your corset is not in right place

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>>9319174
say "But my heart is."

>> No. 9319442

>>9317444
People seem to associate it with trying to be Gothic Lolita and are too dim to realise there is a difference between Goth and Gothic Lolita

>Western Goth vs Japanese Goth
I personally feel the difference is that Western Goth is also a complete living style. It's the music, general opinion, love of the morbid, dark romantic, 'soul' etc whereas in Japan it's more just a fashion choice.

If you just wear the clothing, you're not a Goth. You're just a emo/scene kid/whatever the young 'uns call them now, just making an attempt without actually feeling it.

>> No. 9319461

I wish we could just have an all encompassing Goth gen in /cgl/. In the past, I believe we've been told that "non j-fash Goth" belongs in /fa/, but nitpicking the differences is silly, as it's a street fashion that errs on the side of costume-y regardless.

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>>9319461
goth threads do go on /fa/ though. /cgl/ is a weeb board. them's the breaks.

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>>9318036
You can just say you like to wear dark clothes and leave it at that.

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>>9317392
>I saw someone say h.Naoto makes for bad lolita coords!!
>it must be bad in all jfash!!!
so glad to see fresh faces in jfashion. welcome, newfriend :)

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>>9317490
oooh, this is interesting. saved!

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>>9321686
I love this.

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i love coord snaps done by regular Japanese goths

you get so much more personality than brand adverts

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>>9317882
I didn't know this, my life has new meaning. I'll be in Japan in 2020, sooner if possible.
Industrial is what keeps me alive.
>can literally say I've rubbed every bald headed artist I've gone to see, which is a lot (except Eskil)

>> No. 9323617

>>9317882
There is really only one goth club in my area and they have events infrequently. When I go it's definitely a lot of industrial and basic synchronized dancing. I'd love to check out Tokyo's goth scene, but I don't really know where to go. The only possibility I have found is Department H, which holds parties once a month. Has anyone gone?

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this is one lady's take on different gothic flavors, helpfully labelled in English

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