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46593180 No.46593180 [Reply] [Original]

I just listen to Beethoven's 9th for the first time and now I want to kill myself.

It's truly the pinnacle of music. Nothing I've listened to before matches it, and after years of exploring music it was right there under my nose the entire time. And, nothing I listen to again will ever match the masterpiece that is Beethoven's 9th Symphony.

Truly an amazing yet horrible feeling.

>> No.46593410
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46593410

>plebthoven

>> No.46593499

>>46593180
3/10

>> No.46593540

>>46593180
Now you can dedicate the rest of your life to searching for the ultimate recording.

>> No.46593880

>>46593180
give rachmaninov's isle of the dead a listen. it's so intense, that I can listen to it at most once a year.
also, fun fact: the length of the audio CD was derived from Beethoven's 9th

>> No.46595308

>>46593180
Have you listened to the late piano sonatas?

>> No.46595334

>>46593180
Listen to some Mahler

>> No.46595440

>>46595334
Correct. His incomplete 10th is probably the best. Also, Cesar Franck's Redemption and Britten's War Requiem. Both extremely powerful, brilliant works

>> No.46596554

>>46593410
Fuck off; Beethoven invented music!

Who the fuck are you to come in here and say Beethoven is shit?

Beethoven was the first REAL composer! He was the first to actually put emotion into his music, unlike the still and boring circlejerk wankery Bach and Mozart put out. Nothing Bach ever wrote has an inch on Beethoven's "Moonlit Sonata." And have you heard his "9th Symphony?" Mozart's masterpieces "Eine Kleine Nachtmusik," "Rondo Allah Turkey" don't even approach that work in terms of scale and emotional power.

Pretty much all the music you listen to is rooted in Beethoven. Name any composer--literally any; provided they aren't shit, all of their styles ultimately derive from Beethoven's revolutionary masterpieces.

And buy in large, the Romantic era is far better than the shitty Classical period of bourgeois chamber music and Baroque autism. There's a reason names like Rimsky-Korsakov, Tchaikovsky, Bartók, Chopin, Liszt, Wagner, and Mahler are far more known to the contemporary public than obscure faggots like Gluck, Scarlatti, Handle, Bieber, Haydin, and Gesualdo. They actually composed listenable music that wasn't just two-note circlejerks over the same harmonic sequence OVER AND OVER AGAIN. Goddamn Classical music sucked ass. You retarded for calling Beethoven shit: you're obviously too much of a pleb to enjoy him. Beethoven created and defined what we know as "music," and he marked the point where classical music turned from boring Zzzquil made for overpriveleged aristocrats and Popes to actual powerful beautiful music for the sake of art.

>> No.46596583

>>46593410
I want to see you make something better than Beethoven's Gross Fugue. I bet you can't because you'll never be a good a composer as he.
Bach and Mozart were engineers, Beethoven was an artist. And that ultimately is what divides the line between plebeian and patrician. For patrician listen to music for music's sake, and plebeians listen to it as a commodity. Plebeians are thus naturally drawn to the factory processed garbage made by Mozart and Bach because they enjoy the formulaic appeal and predictability. When plebeians hear Beethoven, however, the run off and cry, because the dissonances in his music are "too deep." Patricians, however, can enjoy Beethoven as a paragon of autistry in music: he rebelled against the gregarious and nauseating tendencies of his time and created a new musical world to be explored by geniuses such as Mahler, Sibelius, Stravinsky, and Mendelssohn. They rejected the terrible past and shunned shitty, boring composers like Bach and Mozart because their music has no internal value whatsoever.

Bach, for example, had severe autism which unabled him to advance beyond German baroque form, His music isn't very good, because the nature of his music is deception. Like a good autist he covers it up with complex techniques that plens immediately gravitate toward "liek omgerr Counterpoint weaving like true autist, oh my gad this fugue so complex ele"

Bach had no artistic depth nor any musical talent, he is in some ways like his successor Mozart. Music that is perfect in construction and theory, not in beauty and inspiration. People who like Bach are simply closet autists who have no idea what good Western Art music is.

Bach never managed to compose anything of even relative worth. Rather than exploring new styles he preferred to jack off alone to the outdated style of ages past, in a manner very similar to modern "wrong generationers."

>> No.46596607

>>46593410
His most famous keyboard work, the Goldberg Variations, was originally written to put an aristocrat to sleep. And, bearing in mind that it consists of 30 variations on not only the same theme but also the same fucking harmonic sequence, it has the very same effect on modern audiences.

The Well-Tempered Clavier is garbage and taught Mozart and Beethoven bad habits that forever stunted their expertise in composition.

The Brandenburg Concertos, Violin Concertos, Orchestral Suites, Mass in B minor, Passions, and Musical Offering are plebeian trash written with mass appeal in mind.

The Art of Fugue is utter dreck and the worst "meme classical" ever written. It's a load of worthless pedantic wankery which literally serves no purpose other than to demonstrate counterpoint. It's hilariously samey and repetitive, which makes sense since it inverts the same fucking melodies to create new counterpoints and does this over and over and over.

Mozart is shit, as well. His autistic use of sonata-allegro is generic and repetitive as fuck; all of his pieces are boring and diatonic, mostly in happy major keys devoid of feeling or deeper meaning; and his music caters to the parties of both privileged aristocrats and the foul mouthed, loathsome bourgeoisie. Moreover, his pieces are extremely limited in terms of timbre; the Classical era faced a huge bottleneck in timbre compared to the Baroque and Romantic. Beautiful instruments such as the viol, chalumeau, viola d'amore, recorder, harpsichord, lute, theorbo, cornetto, and shawm were completely forgotten, and the vast plethora of contemporary brass, wind, and percussion instruments used today were either nonexistent or incredibly uncommon. All of his instrumental works were limited exclusively to the piano, organ, violin family, transverse flute, oboe, clarinet, trumpet, timpani, and bassoon. There is nothing rewarding in listening to Mozart. His music is theoretically perfect, but devoid of interest or feeling.

>> No.46596634

>>46593410
Mozart’s writing style was entirely frivolous; his later works, while “serious” only inasmuch as Mozart could summon seriousness, are still full of ineffectual writing which mainly seems as though it is trying to invoke a spritely-if-Beethovenian attitude. Additionally, his writing calls to mind an amalgam of other (and more meaningful) composers, using as his own signature only the most smug Alberti bass and flippant “tunes”. Even worse, he was the originator of a game of musical dice, making him an irresponsible forefather of aleatoric “music”. The “severe miliary fever” that took his life in 1791 wasn’t nearly deadly enough to wipe away the public’s collective memories of his music. That Eine Kleine Nachtmusik has been reduced to no more than incidental television commercial music proves the bland and impotent nature of his “works,” if you can even call them that.

Comparing the two ultra-autists to Beethoven, we reach an obvious conclusion. Beethoven is the only one to single handedly bring music through TWO separate revolutions and bring the world into the romantic period. What was Bach hailed a genius for? Writing fugues... People say Beethoven didn't like writing fugues as if he was too shit to do it. No. Rather he didn't like having strict rules such as is the case with a fugue, because for Ludwig, art, emotion and expression came first. In fact, he wrote the most complex fugue in the Hammerklavier later in his life just because he fucking could... Whilst practically entirely deaf. In fact he was so deaf he couldn't hear when the performance of his 9th symphony had ended and the audience was going wild.

Not only that, but his life is truly turbulent and intense. Numerous failed loves, the custody battle with his brother's wife for his nephew. His own coming to terms with his irreversible deafness (when he wrote the Apassionata, hence why it starts at the lower register of the keyboard.

>> No.46596660

>>46593410
Bach wrote an incredible Mass, but Beethoven's Missa Solemnis is not far behind.

Bach was a technician, Beethoven was an ARTIST, and for me, music is an artform, about human expression, soul and emotion. Every single work of Beethoven's contains his entire soul within the notes, passion, anguish, melancholy, you can feel in each piece where Beethoven was at in his life. That is why for me Beethoven is the greatest musician of all time. Though, just as an aside, both Beethoven and Mozart claimed that Handle was the best composer of all time.

Handle is utter shit, though, as well all might agree. Beethoven is superior to all that came before him and all that follow.

also /classical/ general I guess. What are my fellow patricians listening to today?

>> No.46596732

>>46596554
>>46596583
>>46596607
>>46596634
>not sure if pasta

>> No.46596762

>>46596660
Nothing because I spent the whole day trying to learn cello... if I could only play something meaningful yet

>> No.46596878

What's the best Chopin cd to have? I have this one

http://www.amazon.com/Chopin-Gold-Maurizio-Pollini/dp/B00303XPME?tag=613240924-20

>> No.46596924

>>46596554
I was with you until you insulted the superior Bach. Get fucked.

>> No.46596997

>>46596554
fuck off man, bach is one of the best composers (if not the best)

the thing about barroque music is that extra-composition factors such as dynamics or strange instrumentation and timbre were not being explored yet so geniuses were forced to put all their concentration into the actual composition, and not the way it should be played

not saying dynamics and shit arent important but saying that beethoven was the first real composer is retard when clearly bach invented being a great composer

bach was not considered great during the classical period, he was considered a good player over composer, but thats because the complexity and raw beauty of his works could not be appreciated in a time in which how you played somthing was more important that the work itself

>> No.46597061

>>46596997
The new, it burns us, precious

>>46593180
7th > 9th

>> No.46597164

>>46596583
the fact that you cant appreciate bach indicate how plebeian you are, you have to be lulled in music with sensationalism and cant appreciate the raw art in composition itself

>> No.46597210

>>46597061
sorry english isnt my native language

>> No.46597769

>>46597164
Ugh you're so new

>> No.46597806

Threadly reminder that Mozart > Beethoven.
>>46597164
First /classical/ thread?

>> No.46597843
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46597843

>>46597769
>tripfag post-2007 telling somebody is new

>> No.46597873

>>46597843
I think CLT might go that far back.
>>46597061
No.

>> No.46597883

>>46597806
>Mozart > Beehthoven
l m a o

>> No.46597926

>>46593180
The great part is that there is other music to convince you that there is no better music.

>> No.46597930

>>46597873
nah fag came in 08

>>46597806
Mahler>Mozart

>> No.46597957

>>46597883
It's a CLT parroted opinion, but it's correct.

>> No.46597969
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46597969

DAILY REMINDER

>> No.46597973

>>46597930
>Mahler>Mozart
brb vomiting.

>> No.46598006

>>46597957
>it's correct
l        m        a        o

>> No.46598015
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46598015

>>46597957
>Pleb
Beethoven>Mozart>Bach

>Retard
Mozart>Bach>Beethoven

>Correct opinion of the highest Patrician order
Bach>Mozart>Beethoven

>> No.46598051

Is this a /classical/ thread?

Can you guys spoonfeed me and tell me which recording of Bach's Mass In B Minor to look out for? Possibly the Brandenberg Concertos too because I don't know which recoding I've been listening to for the past month.

>> No.46598052

>>46593180
https://soundcloud.com/willwat25/empty-soul-instrumental-prod-willy-will

>> No.46598061
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46598061

Thoughts?

>> No.46598062

>>46597930
As someone sympathetic with the whole Mahler/Wagner fanclub, you're wrong. Beethoven and Mozart's music is better in every sense.
The argument that beethoven and mozart are better since they don't rely on excessive instrumentation is fucking stupid though. If mahler and wagner where better at using their instruments, it's a fucking factor of them being better composers. Thing is, they weren't.

>> No.46598084

>>46598051
just buy a copy of the Penguin Guide to Recorded Classical Music second hand or something m8

>> No.46598086

>>46598015
Beethoven>Bach>Mozart

>> No.46598094
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46598094

>>46598051
No it's not faggot, it shitposting 101, and your faggot for not shit posting

>> No.46598114

>>46598061
>thoughts
At least he's better than Mozart.

>> No.46598117

>>46598015
>CLT's opinion
Mozart>Beethoven>Bach
>autistic opinion
Bach>Beethoven>Mozart
>pleb opinion
Beethoven>Bach>Mozart
>my mom's opinion
Beethoven>Mozart>Bach
>/classical/'s opinion
Mozart>Bach>Beethoven
>patrician opinion
Bach>Mozart>Beethoven

>> No.46598119

>>46598051
Are you asking for which Mass in B Minor to not listen to? Don't get the Karajan, I have a record of it because it was a triple disc that only cost a dollar at a second hand store, but it completely fucks up the atmosphere of the piece.

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46598120

>>46598086
Haha you're fuckin pleb

>> No.46598157

>>46598015
>perfection>perfection>perfection

>> No.46598170

>>46598117
>Retards opinion
>Mozart>Beethoven>Bach
>Retards opinion
Bach>Beethoven>Mozart
>Retards opinion
Beethoven>Bach>Mozart
>Retards opinion
Beethoven>Mozart>Bach
>Retards opinion
Mozart>Bach>Beethoven
>patrician opinion
Bach>Mozart>Beethoven

FTFY

>> No.46598176

>>46598119
Scaruffi suggests Gardiner & English Baroque Soloists. Anyone have experience with this?

Wikipedia lists version "on modern instruments" and "with period instruments" which I assume just means pianos or harpsichords but I'm a pleb so can someone explain this too?

>> No.46598189

>>46597843
>>46597930
I started tripping in 2010

>>46598094
WRECKED

>>46598117
Accurate until the last one

>> No.46598197

>>46598157
>Beethoven and Mozart
>perfection

Looks like someone hasn't listen to their early works.

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46598267

>>46598015

what about

Bach>Beethoven>Mozart ?

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>>46598176
>Scaruffi suggests Gardiner & English Baroque Soloists. Anyone have experience with this?
i'm not a fan of JEG, but it's a serviceable recording. fairly large ensemble, and straightforward almost to a fault - the articulation is a bit wooden and short-breathed.

my current favorites are hengelbrock, suzuki and butt (one voice per part, which works surprisingly well).

>> No.46598283

>>46598117
Actually,
>>/classical/'s opinion
>Mozart>Bach>Beethoven
Seems Bach is the popular favorite.

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>>46598283
muh image

>> No.46598345

>>46598283
how do people put beethoven last

>> No.46598380

you obviously dont hear about the band "Swans"

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>>46598170
>Mozart=Bach>Beethoven
schoenberg's ranking

>> No.46598414

>>46598404
>Schoenberg
>anything other than a butthurt reactionary

>> No.46598437

>>46598176
I think it's really good, but Gardiner's always a polarizing conductor. Period instruments means the ensemble exclusively uses instruments modeled after those in use during Bach's time--e.g., the sound of a Baroque oboe is much sweeter and lyrical than today's penetrating, duck-like orchestral fodder. Other commonly recommended recordings are Rene Jacobs, Phillipe Herreweghe, Helmuth Rilling (not HIP) and John Butt (one voice per part, not a good starter). I also have a soft spot for Otto Klemperer's interpretation, despite the outdatedness of his recording.

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>>46598343
>tfw Beethovian was the only who loved Weber as much as me

The best Opera composer Between Mozart and Wagner, and dat overture to Oberon is god tier.

>>46598404
Daily reminder>>46597969

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>>46598414
greatest and most versatile composer of the 20th century, you mean.

>> No.46598479

>>46598268
>>46598437
The Leonhardt version is the most heavily seeded on rutracker and to my knowledge is the most popular on "period instruments".

Should I cop?

>> No.46598529
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46598529

>>46598443
>The best Opera composer Between Mozart and Wagner

>> No.46598531

>>46598479
>to my knowledge is the most popular on "period instruments".
i doubt that.

i don't know it, but if you're familiar with more modern historicist recordings it may sound outdated and somewhat wooden.

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46598532

>>46598471
Jews are disgusting

>> No.46598568

>>46598532
>liking classical music
>being an antisemite
how does it feel to know that you're constricted to mostly mediocre pianists and violinists

>> No.46598581
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>>46598529
>Rossini
>not a shit talking One trick pony

Rossini was big guy

>> No.46598615

>>46598479
I haven't heard it, but I'm generally not to fond of early HIP recordings. Compared to contemporary period performances they sound ironically dated, and not affectionately like Klemperer's.

>> No.46598640

>>46598581
rossini was a virtuosic composer who was smart enough to turn out formulaic music
he wasn't a one trick pony, he just found a trick that made him rich

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>>46598568
How does it feel to be constricted to nothing but degenerate hacks that rape all that is good about music? Also Jews emanate a ray that tricks goyim into their good.

>> No.46598688

>>46598654
>his those Showers
Eh?

>> No.46598698

>>46598654
*thinking

>> No.46598702

>>46598531
>>46598615
I'll check it out and see how it goes. I'm just trying to get a feel for the pieces themselves right now anyway.

>> No.46598724

>>46598654
>implying i'm gentile
what about the countless conservative composers who happened to be jewish? from mendelssohn to eröd, from goldmark to korngold?

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>>46598581
If I could write operas as good as Rossini's I'd talk some shit too.

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>>46598640
for you

>> No.46598774
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>>46598728
Rossini had one opera and a cowboy overture.

>>46598724
All shit, Mendy was inferior to Schubert and Schumann

>> No.46598867

>>46598774
>Rossini had one opera and a cowboy overture.
This is what plebeians actually believe.

>> No.46598905

>>46598774
late rossini is best rossini.

some of the mostly wittily ironic music ever composed that pits strictest palestrina style against opera quotations.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvXFz_8-0bs

>> No.46598912

>>46598867
Sorry, most music listeners plebeian or patrician won't go digging for those shit covered gems that sunk to the very bottom of the Ocean of irrelevancy.

>> No.46599034
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>>46597061
>7th > 9th

>> No.46599074

>>46599034
hey, at least the seventh's finale isn't a potpourri composed on a nursery rhyme.

3>8>7>9=5>6>4=2>1 is how i'd rank them.

>> No.46599103

Bach, Hayden, and Mozart were a different kettle of fish than Beethoven. They were essentially composing works commissioned by aristocrats (the main benefactor of musicians in those days). Beethoven worked in a time of colossal upheaval in Europe; the old order was changing and unlike his predecessors, his music was a form of personal artistic expression rather than a manufactured product like a shirt or a dress as Mozart and Hayden's stuff was.

And that's why his music has an intensity and passion that theirs lacks.

>> No.46599121

>>46599074
shut the fuck up, retard

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>>46599074
>the 6th that low

>> No.46599147

>>46596878
No one? Or does /class/ only know three composers?

>> No.46599151

>>46599103
nice, I'll add that to the pasta

>> No.46599193

>>46599103
you're clueless, mozart was one of the first composers to consciously eschew aristocratic patronage in favor of a freelance career - at a time when this was anything but usual.

beethoven was much more dependent on regular aristocratic patronage, just consider his benefactor archduke rudolf (among many others)

>> No.46599209

i'm coming into this thread just to let you all know that noise rock threads are more friendly, helpful and pleasant to partake in than threads such as this

farewell, i will not even check to see if this nets responses

>> No.46599220
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>>46593180
I just listened to his 9th today while riding my bike and you are objectively 100% correct OP.

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46599224

>you will never hear Gershwin's string quartet

>> No.46599301

>>46599209
>farewell, i will not even check to see if this nets responses

That's what they all say. You'll come back. No one can resist these cancerous retards.

>> No.46599354

>>46599140
the 6th is so boring it's a wonder the performers don't fall asleep by the second movement

>> No.46599402

>>46599354
This is what plebeians actually wonder.

>> No.46599456

>>46598774
>Mendy was inferior to Schubert and Schumann
gg your opinions are now objectively shit

>> No.46599544

>>46599074
people like you actually exist

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46599638

>implying Cyberbird Concerto isn't the pinnacle of music

>> No.46599663

>>46599456
Your onion is shit, Mendy was an assburger shini that happened to play well.

>> No.46599673

>classical music
>good
pick one

>> No.46599705
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46599705

>>46599638
mah nigga, I love Yoshimatsu

His 4th symphony is excellent

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46599778

>>46599663
Draw well too.

>> No.46599780

>>46596554
>>46596583
>>46596607
>>46596634
>>46596660

This is beautiful

>> No.46599883

>>46599705
>someone else likes Yoshimatsu
Hell ya. Never listened to his 4th Symphony, but I love his other work. I wish more Japanese composer turned out like him instead of going to extreme atonal way. Not to say Japan doesn't have some other fantastic composers (Somei Satoh, Toru Takemitsu among others) but they all seem to be trying to emulate Schoenburg too much for my liking. Man I need to get back into classical music. Used to be really into it, but I've been trying to get into jazz recently, so that's been taking up my time.
But yeah, Yoshimatsu = amazing

>> No.46599917

>>46598051

What you want is Furtwangler the Bach mangler

But in all seriousness, get the Suzuki, Bruggen, Junghanel, Bernius, Rilling or Rademann recordings. Have a listen to each and pick your favourite

>> No.46599943

>>46598268

>ever choosing a one voice per part recording

Disgusting

>> No.46599973

>>46598443

Weber is fucking underrated. He composed a lot of good stuff that gets skated over these days

>> No.46600017

>>46598581

Rossini is the fucking GOAT mate, don't even fucking joke about these things.

>> No.46600058

>>46599883
He has the orchestral coloring of Romantics like Dvorak and Tchaikovsky and the dreamy like atmosphere of Debussy with a Jazz/Japanese folk flavor. I can't find his Symphony 2; Guitar Concerto; Threnody album, nothing is on Rutracker and Soulseek has it at a low bitrate

Takemitsu is still my favorite, he is much more akin to Messiaen and Debussy than Schoenberg

>> No.46600067

>>46599103

Have you even listened to the Missa Angustiis? It was written as Haydn's home city was being threatened by Napoleonic invasion and remains one of the most incredibly moving and beautiful masses ever composed

>> No.46600100

>>46599973
The Best overture I've heard along with Pelleas and From the House of the Dead

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5wI16vset4

>> No.46600108

>>46599663

>assburger

Fuck off, Mendelssohn was a prodigy

>insane composer
>spoke 5 or 6 languages fluently
>Great athlete
>Extremely strong swimmer
>Competent artist and painter

>> No.46600160

>>46600108
>used to crosdress as a child

>> No.46600174

>>46600100

I got into Weber mostly through his clarinet works, which are some of the best in the repetoire (his concerto in F Minor in particular).

>> No.46600176

>>46600108
He was nothing more than Asian/Black hybridization

>> No.46600201

>>46600160

All the best composers did

>> No.46600252

>>46600160
>>46600201
wagner loved pink, frilly robes and fine perfumes.

>> No.46600289

>>46600160
>not crossdressing as a teen and adult

>> No.46600338

>>46600289
I loved cumming in my sisters leggings.

>>46600174
Listening to his Clarinet concerto right now, F minor is brilliant key

>> No.46600340

>>46598343
some tripfags are more equal than others

>> No.46600389

>>46593180
have you never wartched tv, the radio, or had a teacher that put on music during a spelling test? how is possible youve never heard it before?

>> No.46600403

>>46600338
That's gross. Just go to dances and Halloween parties and shit.

>> No.46600514

>>46600403
I love the feeling of cross dressing it's as if the a succubus is inviting over to a another side of the world.

I tend to get creativity boosts when I do this because I am in a completely different state of mind.

>> No.46601132

>>46600100

This Overture may be my favorite; but Euryanthe's is not far behind.


>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0WayBB5Ys8


>>46600174

For me, it was his Opera and Masses. Weber's 2nd Missa Sancta is often overlooked; but it's very good:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mlNqpl-YJI

>> No.46602445

>>46597969
I assuming Julius Eastman wasn't included here to avoid accusations of racism, because he actually would fit considering the chart's probable intentions.

>> No.46602779

what happened to clt? did his trip get leaked? who is this retard posting with his trip?

>> No.46603073

>>46602445
it's overtly antisemitic, how the fuck is it not racist?

>> No.46604222
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>> No.46604432

>Bach fags

baroque music is emotionless bile that is only enjoyed, and composed, by severe autists with no appreciation of love, life or the cosmos

when i think of sperglord Bach fanboys listening to his garbage works, i picture Rainman, dribbling over his Bach manuscript he's printed off of google images, applauding himself over yet another emotionless motif he's spotted

Bach is the sudoko of the music world, Beethoven is the chess of the music world

>> No.46604817

>>46597969
these are all top-tier

except schoenberg

fuck schoenberg

>> No.46604909

what's non-classical music that has the complexity of classical?

and by non-classical i mean not western art music for you autists out there

>> No.46605054

>>46596554
gr8 b8thoven m8

>> No.46605156
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46605156

>>46603073
>jew getting assmad over a chart and a few prejudice remarks

>> No.46605178

>>46604909
jazz. Like so much post-bop jazz has as much complexity if not more than most classical.
To be honest, much of classical music is reallllly fucking predictable. And most of what isn't still is relatively simple- variations within a specific chord, sticking to predictable chord progressions, counterpoint (which is literally a mathematical system- all you have to do is follow a set of rules to write good counterpoint, which is a ton of what Mozart and Bach did). There are obviously great composers that variate from the norm, but much of classical is simple as pie. Now, when you get to the twentieth century, you have people like Igor Stravinksy doing stuff like the right of spring, which I guess transitions into "art music", but is still within the realm of classical.

However, following the post-bop revolution in jazz, you have people like John Coltrane, Bill Evans, Ahmad Jamal, Dave Holland, all making incredibly dense, melodic, interesting, and complex music. The tonal shifts as well as the musical structure doesn't really follow any defined structure like much of classical, including Beethoven, does. The structural shifts in modal jazz open up a realm of harmonic possibilities that weren't accessible in the period of classical music. To me, Jazz is much more interesting and complex than classical, speaking from a structural basis.

>> No.46605225

>>46605178
Post a jazz piece with formal (google "musical form" if you have to) intricacy comparable to Schubert's Eb piano trio.

>> No.46605284
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46605284

so is the anti-semitism in these threads serious or just le ironic /pol/ epic meme?

i can never tell because autism makes it hard for me to understand sarcasm

>> No.46605324

>>46605178
>which is literally a mathematical system- all you have to do is follow a set of rules to write good counterpoint, which is a ton of what Mozart and Bach did
it really isn't. attempts to formalize modal counterpoint have failed, and bach's use of counterpoint is notoriously hard to describe because of how permissive it tends to be.

>> No.46605364

>>46596554
Is it wrong that I prefer Mozart and Bach to Beethoven?

>> No.46605370

>>46597061
Hey! I agree with CLT!

>> No.46605413

>>46605364
Not really. Bach is my top composer OAT and Mozart's melodies cannot be improved.

>> No.46605420

>>46605225
>>46605324
regardless of its comparative complexity jazz makes me feel much more emotion than classical. it's more ecstatic. classical is like looking at a good work of architecture. jazz is like a journey through someone's temporary psychosis. it's like psychology.

>> No.46605441

>>46605225
https://myspace.com/davidbinneymusic/music/song/equality-at-low-levels-78722827-86694363
only place I could find a link

>> No.46605448

>>46605364
music is subjective :)

>> No.46605474

>>46605364
no
who's to say what's wrong and right in music?

>> No.46605476

>>46605420
IDK Jazz just seems more fun to me...I don't get much emotion at all from Jazz. No Jazz has made me feel explicitly sad or happy. Then, there's a piece like Shostakovich No. 4.

>> No.46605514

I'm not really sure what classifies as classical music, as i know its a pretty broad term, but the most satisfying and emotionally moving piece I have ever heard i was Dohnanyi's Symphonic Minutes, andante. Recordings online just dont compare to the experience I had in the theatre that night

However Dvorak's 9th is fucking phenomenal

>> No.46605515
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46605515

>all this incessant whining about the big german 3

it's like i really just found out about classical!

>> No.46605547

>>46605476
I've cried listening to this piece about a dozen times:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpSWDYzSIfs#t=1302

>> No.46605600
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46605600

>>46605284
It's a joke. Most of the Music going to shit during the 20th century was the fault of one Jew and his shabbos goy, but it's something that I laugh at and make light of. I do despise certain types of jews (Orthodox, Aipac, and Hollywood) to a degree, but some of my favorite composers were tribal origin, Offenbach, Dukas, Glass, Gershwin, Ligeti and Reich come to mind.

>pic related
>the best shini to ever grace the western art tradition

>> No.46605620

>>46605547
Maybe I've just been listening to the wrong Jazz then. I can definitely see the emotion in this. *shrug*

>> No.46605627

>>46605324
Not *all* of what Bach and Mozart did. And not necessarily explicit rules. But the fact that both composers could replicate their work in counterpoint so much over such a large span of times and work just implies a certain amount of- i don't know how to say it, logic perhaps? The fact is that a vast majority of Mozart and Bach's works are simply plagarisms of their early works. You can't have a catalog of >1000 pieces and not have that be the case. Bach followed a very predictable pattern that worked well for him and earned him continuous comissions- so did Mozart. Not to say they weren't brilliant, but its a very small amount of their works that actually were influential- the rest were just same old same old. They didn't push the boundaries in the way later composers would, simply improved on the already existing structure and mastered it.

>> No.46605728

>>46605620
Not all jazz is emotional, just like not all classical is. But when good jazz hits me in the feels, it hits me hard. Especially Bill evans. I'd also check out Brad Mehldau's works if you have a chance, he's another fantastic jazz pianist.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUhEZOu-kkg

>> No.46605897

>>46605225
no response, huh

>> No.46605903

>>46605515
>>46605627
>The fact is that a vast majority of Mozart and Bach's works are simply plagarisms of their early works.
[citations needed]

>> No.46606002

>>46605903
listen to all of Bach and Mozart's works in a week
I did
I thought it was on repeat half the time

Also this paper:
http://bayes.wustl.edu/etj/music/m7h.pdf

>> No.46606166

>>46606002
>I did
Yeah, no you didn't.

>http://bayes.wustl.edu/etj/music/m7h.pdf
This is twelve pages long. Cite a relevant passage.

>> No.46606310

>>46606166
>cite a relevant passage
why don't you learn to read the entire paper is relevant

>no you didn't
http://www.amazon.com/Mozart-Edition-Complete-Works-170/dp/B000BLI3K2
http://www.amazon.com/Bach-Edition-Complete-Works-155/dp/B000HRME5U

these torrents are easily avaliable, I just had them playing 24/7 as background music, to fall asleep to as well
it did take a little longer than a week though
somewhere between one and two

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46606334

>>46606310
>I just had them playing 24/7 as background music

>> No.46606343

>>46606310
Well you obviously didn't take them all in...

>> No.46606363

>>46606310
but I will cite a relevant passage:
"When one has heard too much Mozart in a short time, the realization comes suddenly:
nearly all of his music sounds vaguely the same, whatever the instruments, whatever the
musical form, and whatever the ostensible programmatic purpose. You could interchange
the musical material of almost any two Mozart works, and they would still have just the
same effect."

>> No.46606388

>>46606363
>unsupported assertion

>> No.46606394

>>46606334
what? I spent the whole week writing a paper. It's good music to work to. doesn't really require your attention, kinda fades outta focus after a while.

>> No.46606412

>>46606394
Now you're just trolling poorly.

>> No.46606420

>>46606343
I took enough in to recognize how fucking interchangeable so much of it was.

>>46606388
read the rest of the paper and theres support you lazy fuckwad, i fucking linked it, do I have to copy paste the entire thing for you illiterate retard?

>> No.46606426

>>46606394
Sure but it doesn't really mean you listened to all of his works.
If you heard one, just one, of Bach's Cantatas you clearly could not identify it as something you listened to.

>> No.46606441

>>46606412
you'd like to think that wouldn't you
someone having an opinion that mozart and bach don't require attention= trolling?

>> No.46606443

>>46606363
ISn't that true of any composer. Or any musician for that matter? You listen to anyone enough and you kind of tap into their mind and anticipate where they will go. I think that's what a certain 'style' means.

>> No.46606448

>>46606310
>I just had them playing 24/7 as background music, to fall asleep to as well
>>46606394
>doesn't really require your attention
/r/ing that Ame image with the Plato quote.

>> No.46606455

>>46604432
But I did shit my pants when in practicing the Art of Fugue I realized the countersubject to the BACH motif on Contrapunctus XIV was just a variation on the second subject of Contrapunctus XI, and the piece's final, incredibly sorrowful section was but a crude, broken reflection of XI's terrifying double exposition (with the third subjects both bearing the same harmonic sequence, of course).

>> No.46606480

>>46606443
no. mozart specifically uses the same musical themes and tropes over and over again, writing music in a formulaic manner. So did bach. If you listen to enough in a short span (like the author of this paper did) you can recognize exactly these formulas and see how they constantly reuse them. Compare that to later composers like Stravinsky, Berlioz, Copland, Schoenberg, etc. these composers create each piece with a thematic purpose, and base the theme off that, while mozart and bach often wrote music just to get it over with, pulling from extensive mental libraries of themes and trope and piecing them together.

Like I said, read the rest of the paper. It explains this.

>> No.46606503

>>46606455
Art of the Fugue is an amazing work. Anyone who disses Bach for that should be forced to sit in a sonic chamber and listen to glenn gould on repeat.

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>>46606448

>> No.46606528

>>46606480
>the same musical themes and tropes over and over again
[citations needed]

>> No.46606540

>>46606516
Ame was trolling right?

>> No.46606544

>>46606480
I wasn't contending your point or the paper. I just read your post and commented on it.

The later composers you listed had tried to purposely intellectualise music.Whereas Bach and Mozart, once in a generation musicians as they were, were performers for royalty and the church first and foremost. Their music happened to be intellectually stimulating. It never aspired to be.

>> No.46606571

>>46606528
THAT FUCKING PAPER I LINKED YOU ILLITERATE FUCKHEAD
goddamn it would take you less time just to read it than fucking keep repeating "citations needed"
also my own damn experience
i'm citing that you piece of shit
what you gonna do?

>> No.46606579

>>46606571
Ask you to support your assertions.

>> No.46606621

>>46606528
who are you quoting?

>> No.46606632

>>46606544
exactly. you hit the nail spot on. it happened, at points, to be intellectually interesting, but as a side note of their intense talent. This is why we pick out the needle in the haystack of mozart and bach works to listen to nowadays, and ignore a good 90% of all their libraries- because much of it is derivative, yet talented, musicianship. The kind of their works that is musically pleasant, but not very interesting. We relisten to Bach's Mass in B minor, toccatta and fugue, goldberg variations, art of the fugue, and many others that are diverse and interesting. We relisten to Mozart's Requiem, Operas, (certain) symphonies, and piano sonatas, but not his countless other works for piano and strings that repeat structures over and over again. Because, primarily, both were self conciously musicians, whereas later composers were self-conciously composers more than anything. Bach himself was not recognized as a great composer in his time- it was only after his death that people recognized the genius of his work- he was simply known as a masterful organist.

>> No.46606634

>>46606516
lol that image just shows how people don't really change even after centuries. People romanticise a past the never happened and curse the present.

The human race has been degenerating for so long yet is no worse today than it was during the Romans, the Egyptians or the Sumerians.

>> No.46606635

>>46606621
>>46606528

And it's *whom

>> No.46606655

>>46606635
oh a grammar nazi AND a "le wrong generation"er. You really have the NEET suite of characteristics down to a T.

>> No.46606676

>>46606634
i'd say many societies are a lot better than they were during the Roman empire
yet also many are worse
I guess it kinda balances out in the end
still would rather live today than two thousand years ago, wouldn't you?

>> No.46606681

>>46606655
Except for being employed.

>> No.46606698

>>46606676
>not wanting to meet Jesus

>> No.46606707

>>46606681
well, no one's perfect. Not even at being a NEET. but you're doing a pretty good job! don't give up, you'll get there soon. All you have to do is put some effort into losing that job and you'll be a NEET posterboy!

>> No.46606725

>>46606698
eh, he'd probably be kinda lame. And then he'd die horribly, and why would I want to see that? also I'd probably die of ebola or disentery or something at 32, and diarhheaing to death is like the least pleasant way to die.

>> No.46606745

>>46606725
>diarhheaing to death is like the least pleasant way to die
," he said after alluding to crucifixion earlier in the same paragraph.

>> No.46606765

>tfw boring old CLT and no Celebes and Tallis gang arguing against plebs
/classical/ is so boring.

>> No.46606766

>>46606632
I think we can agree to that. That said I like the 'musicians first composers second' composers much more. The newer composers make navel gazing music which really isn't for me. That's why I think jazz artists up to the 70s were the flag bearers for art music. Then they started navel gazing as well. It might be another 100 years till we hear truly masterful music made for its own sake again.

>>46606676
Depends. I'd love to live in an older society as an upper class intellectual. But as a middle class pretender I'd rather live in the present.

>> No.46606784

>>46606745
Honestly, I would rather be crucified than shit myself to death. Already thought this through maaaannnyy times before. Shitting to death is, quite possibly, the worst way you could ever die. Aside from getting your dick eaten off by spiders and bleeding to death through it. But aside from that, yeah, shitting yourself to death is the worst.

>> No.46606846

>>46606766
really? and lose all the convinences of the modern day? you'd literally NEVER be able to shower again
>no refrigeration
>shitty food
>even with servants and shit you'd have to walk/ride a horse fucking everywhere
>you wanna go anyplace outside your city? be prepared to walk for fucking weeks
>no electricity
>no tv
>not really any books, just scrolls and handwritten shit
>no music outside of a few performances you'd go to everyso often
>no internet
>no real way to disseminate knowledge quickly
>no reliable medical treatment
>high probability you die from the flue

>> No.46606858

>>46606784
Nah. You'd be too weak to be cognizant of your own death after a while. Whereas if you are tortured to death you experience it a lot more I would image.

>> No.46606882

>>46606858
crucifixion = intense pain for a few hours, maybe a day at most, until you suffocate/collapsed lung
death from ebola/dissentery/any other disease involving shitting yourself to death = weeks of misery, discomfort, and the worst sickness you've ever experienced, culminating in your life literally exiting through your anus

>> No.46606908

>>46606858
note that most people crucified were not tortured before hand, it was a pretty procedural thing, and most weren't literally nailed to a cross either, just tied to it. really not as terrible as something like the passion of the christ makes it out to be. Still really, really terrible, but not ebola tier terrible.

>> No.46606909

>>46606846
>no TV
>no internet
It sounds like heaven.
Walking around isn't even a bad thing, you sound fat.

>> No.46606911

>>46606882
>/classical/ - Classical Music

>> No.46606918

>>46606882
/classical/

>> No.46606926

>>46606909
you know i love walking, i take walks all the time.
you know what i don't love?
walking for months to get across a country.
i realllllllllyyy love air travel, because what used to take months/years for people to accomplish on foot/horseback/boat now takes us hours.

>> No.46606947

>>46606918
>>46606911
>/classical/

>> No.46606948

>>46606846
>fuck multiple underage slaves
>food would probably be pretty good depending on which civilisation we're talking about
>no need to work
>no showers but great hygiene(do you relly think upperclassmen were dirty?)
>respect in society

Medicine and entertainment are valid points but it's a close call given the perks.

>> No.46606950

>>46606926
You are now aware that you can fly across an ocean in a single day but you can't get a girlfriend.

>> No.46606979

>>46606950
jokes on you
i literally had sex three hours ago
with a girl from turkey
see, the miracles of air travel- she wouldn't have been here two thousand years ago!

>> No.46606984

>>46606947
>/classical/ - Classical Memes

>> No.46606991

>>46606950
>You are now aware that you can fly across an ocean in a single day but you can't get a girlfriend.
Great burn but you can buy a gf for the price of an international airline ticket.

>> No.46607006

>>46606979
>with a girl from turkey
Haha gross

>> No.46607009

>>46606979
Have fun getting syphilis.

>> No.46607017

>>46607006
yeeeee just like the deli meat

>> No.46607026

>tfw no Iranian gf

>> No.46607045

>>46607009
oh no, syphilis!! the silent killer! The deadly assasin of our groins!

... oh, wait, its totally curable:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benzylpenicillin

also i used a condom like a smart person

>> No.46607051
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mfw this whole thread

Enjoying me some Weber though... Oberon Overture. Other essential Weber Opera?

>> No.46607056

>>46607026
B-but I'm Scottish ;_;

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46607072

>>46607026
>Iranian
learn some geography you moron

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>>46607026
Clt you're white, don't flush away your genes to a filthy arab, Men who race mix are just as awful as the woman who racemix.

>> No.46607094

>>46607056
And taken, last I heard. And strictly speaking I don't even know for certain if we're gender-compatible.

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>>46607006
>>46607009
>not wanting to fuck qt exotic chicks.

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>>46607051
nope you're not getting out of this that easy
now you're in the agressive /mu/ classical bitchfight, with all of us, you can't leave
>mfw I don't even know what's being argued about or why people are angry anymore

>> No.46607109

>>46607045
Watch out mate, I hear it's dangerous.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1159670/Dangerous-food-poisoning-bugs-infect-20-kebabs-all.html

>> No.46607119

>>46607077
Persians are (East) Aryans

Not to mention beautiful

>> No.46607124

>>46607051
Der Freischütz and Euranthye

I've been eyein the DF conducted by Kleiber

>> No.46607137

>>46607077
caption should be "CLT pulls over a pleb for not listening to Mozart"

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46607142

>>46607109
>http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1159670/Dangerous-food-poisoning-bugs-infect-20-kebabs-all.html

wut

>> No.46607150

>>46607119
Not anymore, After the arabs raped them, their Japhetic genes all but disappeared Some of them do have a little bit of white in them.

>> No.46607156

>>46607137
>tfw don't have this authority IRL

>> No.46607162

>>46607103
That's probable a latina or a black chick in a burka.

>>46607119
>Persians are (East) Aryans
And that's important why?

>> No.46607166

>>46607119
except when you take off their shirt and recognize they are 90% body hair

>> No.46607174

>>46607094
Hahaha you stupid cunt that was Calcium.

>>46607103
Have fun getting banned :^)

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>>46607105
Hahahah well I'm in, but I propose we judge composers based on their effectiveness with a rapier.
Bach wins.

Also I seem to be stuck qt girls folder so don't mind if I randomly post chicks here

>> No.46607216

>>46607174
You're a fucking jerk. I hate you.

>>46607166
>tfw girls look weird w/o pubic hair but almost every girl shaves trims down there b/c of porn

>> No.46607263

>>46607216
>Shaving

According to this Russian chick i fooled around with:
shaving is for bikers.
real girls wax...

>> No.46607268

>>46607216
trim, yeah. shave, no, most girls i've been with haven't shaved. but i don't just mean pubic hair for persian girls. i mean BODY hair. like, all over the fucking place. persian girls have armpit hair, thick arm hair, leg hair, fucking nipple hair, just, all over the place. disgusting status

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46607303

>>46607263
>fooling around

Uhh fucking normal fags shitting 4chan everyday, This why i go to /r9k/

>> No.46607348

>>46593880
Sony vice-president Norio Ohga suggested extending the capacity to 74 minutes to accommodate Wilhelm Furtwängler's recording of Ludwig van Beethoven's Symphony No. 9 from the 1951 Bayreuth Festival. The additional 14-minute playing time subsequently required changing to a 120 mm disc. Kees Immink, Philips' chief engineer, however, denies this, claiming that the increase was motivated by technical considerations, and that even after the increase in size, the Furtwängler recording would not have fit on one of the earliest CDs.

>tfw engineers ruin all the good stories

>> No.46607368

>>46607303
top kek
>has contact with girls
>can label him "normalfag" and not feel inferior because kissless virgin

>> No.46607415

>>46607303
I'm hardly normal. been with some damn fine girls, but i usually fuck it up. years between each one.
only just recently got back into 'the game' this chick has been like my biggest fan for years... loves my songs/voice/etc. only just realized we totally want to FUCK[nospoiler] it has literally been like 3 years since i got any action.

>> No.46607426

Hey CLT you using SLSK yet?

>> No.46607445
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>> No.46607459

Relax, OP, there are other styles, genres and directions to master, obviously.

>> No.46607465

>>46607268
>nipple hair
Okay, second thoughts. I'll just stick with whites I guess.

>> No.46607480

>>46607445
hahahahahahaha
top kek, top kek

>> No.46607484

>>46607426
Nah, I mostly haven't even been listening to music. Got sucked into GoT lol

>> No.46607492

>>46607445
Delicious pro beethoven pasta

>> No.46607498

I like Phillip Glass

>> No.46607521

A stodgy autismal over-conservative music professor and fugue-fetishist was teaching a class on Johann Sebastian Bach, known lardass.

”Before the class begins, you must get on your knees and worship the Baroque era and accept that it was the most productive period in the history of Western art music, even more than Viennese Classicism!”

At this moment a brave, impeccably dressed, inebriated contemporary composer who had just snorted a line of coke off a teenage classmate's back and understood the folly of a(r/u)tistic movements such as serialism and fully supported the preservation and continuation of the true old masters' legacies stood and held up a composition notebook.

”Professor, do you recognize this piece?”

The arrogant professor smirked quite Lutheranly as he leafed through the notebook. "Why, there's nothing in here but blank manuscript paper, you stupid pedophile. Is it 4'33"?"

"No. It's an opera. If J.S. Bach, as you say, is categorically the greatest composer of all time... then he should have written one, and it should be in this book."

>> No.46607542

>>46607521
The professor was visibly shaken, and dropped his chalk and 80-disc Glenn Gould boxed set. He stormed out of the room crying those Bach fanboy crocodile tears. The same tears all autismal fanboys cry when someone else's favorite composer is different from theirs. There is no doubt at all that our professor, an anonymous craven coward who balked at accepting responsibility for his 4chan posts by using a tripcode on /mu/, wished he had taken the time to appreciate music beneath its surface aesthetics and understand the incalculable grace and poise of the great Classical masterpieces and deep intellectual current which runs beneath their simple veneer. In the final moments before his suicide, he wished so much for a requiem mass to be sung at his funeral, but alas! The lazy Bach had neglected to write any of those, either!

The students applauded and all finally "got" Mozart that day and the patricians among them split into groups to form chamber ensembles. A firetruck roared past outside and the plebeians in the class, mistaking it for their favorite Tchaikovsky pieces, rushed out into the street to listen and were flattened. A bird named Franz Schubert flew into the room but the meme didn't catch on and it left before anyone noticed. The Heiligenstadt Testament was read aloud several times and the Great Patrician himself showed up to congratulate everyone on their good taste.

That young composer's name? Ulysse "Tallis" Bouchard.

>> No.46607566

>>46607498
me too! I struggle to find pieces of his that hold my interest though... ideally not operas, but more solo stuff:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmWYtZohMWc

any suggestions for cool solo/small scale pieces he's done?

>> No.46607777

>>46599147
Everyone knows who Chopin was you insufferable pleb

>> No.46607779

So uh.

Which composer was the hairiest?

>> No.46607801

>>46607777
Nice get.

>> No.46607811

>>46607445
you do realize it was complete satire right...?

>> No.46607851

>>46607777
Their ain't no wreck like a quad GET wreck cause a quag GET wreck ends in four consecutive repeating digits

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>>46607779
le meme young

>> No.46607924

>>46607875
>hey kid wanna wanna play some drone music

>> No.46608051

>>46596554
you know so little of music it's actually painful

>> No.46608127

>>46596607
Dude you're really just kind of an asshole. you might be right on something in that belligerent tirade of yours, but at the of, everyone is going to think you're a dick.

>> No.46608144

>>46596607
Although I am really curious to hear your opinion on Hindemith.

>> No.46608151

My recital went well /classical/. Although I'm sort of regretting the copious amounts I had to drink afterwards.

Some other good stuff on the programme too, which is always nice. Some really nice stuff

Britten's song cycle "On this Island" in particular, I do have a soft spot for early, slightly more tonal Britten

>> No.46608161

>>46608151
why did you have to drink

>> No.46608202

>>46607566
I dunno, I like mainly his big symphonic stuff.

Though I saw Music in Twelve Parts this weekend, and that was pretty good, and it's a chamber-scale piece.

4 50 minute segments with a dinner break in the middle makes a grueling concert when you're too stingy to buy the venue's dinner.

>> No.46608208

>>46608161
*sips rye whiskey*

>> No.46608224

>>46608161

Didn't have to, but it was fun at the time.

And it led to a liason with a Welsh soprano with some 9/10 tits

>> No.46608288

>>46607498
I like his 5th String Quartet

>> No.46608291

Mozart - Quartet No. 2 in D major K155

Purcell - Fantasia No. 10

Mendelssohn - Quartet Op.12 in E flat major

Going to be a good concert Y/N?

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>>46608202
interesting set up... having dinner at the concert. Is that unusual?

>>46608224
>Classical qts

you have my full approval anon, carry on.

>> No.46608346

>>46608318
I assume fairly unusual. Kind of a good idea though given that otherwise you'd have people sitting through 4 hours of minimalism without a break to breath. Also, it started at 5, which is early for dinner; without the meal break it would have ended at 9, which is late for dinner.

According to the program it's traditionally performed as a multi-night concert.

>> No.46608361

>>46608291
Eh

I mean I wouldn't kick it put of bed for eating crackers

>> No.46608367

>>46607777
nice get and authority, you a god

>> No.46608476

>>46608361

Currently trying to decide whether it's worth leaving the house for.

Just realised that the Bourree from Bach's Suite No. 1 for Lute features in that Tenacious D movie. huh

>> No.46608498

>>46608476
Is that the same one Jethro Tull covered?

>> No.46608518

That reminds me, what piece are they quoting at the beginning of www.youtube.com/watch?v=bn5TNqjuHiU ? I have a feeling it's in G minor, but I'm pretty drunk.

>> No.46608553

>>46608498

Dunno

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>>46596554
>Rondo Allah Turkey
>Allah Turkey
>Allah
>Turkey

>> No.46608601

Does anyone happen to know the first composition to make use of a xylophone

>> No.46608613

>>46608518
>dat butchering of Summertime

Why do white people ruin Blues

>> No.46608717

>>46608613
"Summertime" was composed by a white guy fyi

>> No.46608733

>>46608717
>George Gershwin
>white
top kek

>> No.46608738

>>46608733
>>>/pol/

>> No.46608747

>>46608738
>>>/SJW/

>> No.46608832

>>46608601
Anyone?

>> No.46608903

>>46608717
But he did it a faux white jewish way,

besides it's so much better when a soprano is singing it

>>46608738
He's right you know, Ashekenazis are heavily mixed people and have traits from Asian, White and especially Black people, which explains the prominent lower lips on some Jews

>> No.46608914

>>46608903
Message me back on last.fm, Ame

>> No.46608969

>>46608914
I'm not Ame ;_;

>> No.46609006

>>46608969
It was a shot in the dark. I noticed your racisms.

>> No.46609017

>>46609006
Hey what do you think of this new track

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCVmC-B7O78&list=UURksgtaQse5w3VWIDK-Qb5Q

>> No.46609032

>>46609006
hey CLT why don't you have a RYM, it is simply about keeping track of your favorite albums after all, nothing wrong with that

>> No.46609050

>>46609017
Hahahahaha omfg that kashmir sample

What magnificent shit is this

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>>46609050
>not knowing about based Raed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIKbZftjOls&list=UURksgtaQse5w3VWIDK-Qb5Q
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDspPjlySyg&list=UURksgtaQse5w3VWIDK-Qb5Q

>> No.46609075

>>46609050
>kashmir
>not puff daddy

>> No.46609079

>>46609017
they forgot to sync it

>> No.46609093

>>46598268
>OVPP
>works surprisingly well

>Sanctus

>> No.46609117

>>46609093

To be fair, the Dunedin Consort do a pretty good job if you're looking for a OVPP recording. It's refreshingly different.

>> No.46609130

Anyone want some /classical/ webms? Feeling like making some today

>> No.46609143

>>46609130
Beethoven in despair in the mud with carriage

from dearly beloved, thanks in advance

>> No.46609156

>>46609130
Also the scene from lisztmania with the penis guillotine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peJ_ncxXung

because reasons

>> No.46609163

>>46609117
I've head Parrot and Rifkin's rendition and all I can say is it may work well for some movements but OVPP performances leave something to be desired in the framing choruses of the gloria and the sanctus chorus to say the very least.

>implying the Dresden Hofkapelle can't muster more than 5 singers for mass

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>>46609130

Let's see what the quality is like

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>>46609196

>> No.46609215

>>46609196
have dicks going into their open mouths the whole time. just random dicks from nowhere. all the time. if a mouth is open in the opera voice way, it must be filled with dick

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>>46609156

If you can find me a better quality source, I'll make a better quality video

>> No.46609236

>>46609215
>/classical/

>>46609075
>>46609068
I don't listen to much meme rap besides De La Soul

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>>46596607
>meme classical

>> No.46609254

>>46609228
>CLT is forced to listen to modern music.webm

Brilliant. saved

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>Bernstein

>> No.46609519

>>46609444

>trips

What a fud

>> No.46610717

Bump

>> No.46610985

>>46610982

New thread

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